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by **Jordan~** on 11 Oct 2010, 02:44

Weeping over Does Not Suffice again. I'm still in love. It's been well over a year.

by **queenofnerds** on 11 Oct 2010, 07:41

So it does take a while to get over these things then! I thought I was the only one.

by **Ann** on 12 Oct 2010, 08:50

to those with broken hearts.

Saturday I met this very very attractive man but I somehow got very drunk very quickly and literally spent all night telling him how beautiful he was. He told me at one point to stop and I'm pretty sure I didn't. Then he kissed me :oops:

. Anyway, I have his phone number in my phone but he has not replied to my text and I so can assume that he's not interested, probably because I didn't come across so well.

by **whichtitch** on 12 Oct 2010, 15:51

http://thecollectivereview.com/t5m-insi ... l?fmt=news

by **Wanbli** on 13 Oct 2010, 00:52

life sucks cause soulless scum walk the earth posing as humans

by **ribbonbows** on 13 Oct 2010, 02:23

by **polliwog** on 13 Oct 2010, 03:31

by **Ann** on 13 Oct 2010, 03:53

by **ribbonbows** on 13 Oct 2010, 06:04

hahaha not QUITE as melodramatic. but it was a re-bone for suuure.

i mean, they used a lot of hotels in season 1 :wink:

by **Weirdelves** on 13 Oct 2010, 14:07

by **Wanbli** on 13 Oct 2010, 17:05

weirdelves, I could have posted 100 articles about it- just randomly chose that one.
Calling most anything posted online "journalism" is a stretch
I could care less about the tone or person writing about it- no matter how it is read, - if one believes there are evil people and a place for them- she has a ticket reserved.

Is this better?

And you obviously are not a parent if you have no sympathy for a dying 7 year old girl

by **Weirdelves** on 13 Oct 2010, 17:51

Hey I was just making a comment on the site, I wasn't saying that I have no sympathy if you read it I said the way it's written is not conducive to sympathy. It was no attack on the story or you so there's no need to get personal.

by **Jordan~** on 13 Oct 2010, 19:27

More diversionary, shock and horror crap. Sure, it's sad, but parading it around in front of the public is just indecent. Why does the world have to know about this? If we must have a personal story, can it not be about someone who helps a dying little girl? Can we not get something heartwarming and inspirational? Guess not, it doesn't sell as well.
Not criticising you for posting, just whatever avaricious, acquisitive jackass heard about it and thought, "Now there's a scoop!"

by **Wanbli** on 13 Oct 2010, 20:04

well- I have personal experience with the trend of cyberbullying and know families who have lost loved ones because of it.

sorry weird- wasn't attacking you and should have posted a better link, but this makes me very upset.

That said, IMO this type of behavior is best called out publicly to shame those who prey on the weak.

Recently in the US 5 gay teens have killed themselves over the last few months.
Should those suicides be publicized and the bullying discussed to stop the cycle of violence?
Should those who publicly call out, humiliate and bully others be called out themselves?
Or does it lend itself to sensationalizing it all and lead to copycat suicides because people believe they will also make the front page of the news?

Now on the flipside, the digital citizens of the world have rallied with cries of love and support and inspiration to this girl and her family- be it wishes, thoughts, donations, likes on FB, etc- there is hope

by **Jordan~** on 13 Oct 2010, 20:59

I don't think it is better to publicise these things. The best it could do is perhaps comfort people with the knowledge that there are other people suffering what they're suffering, but the fact that those people were driven to suicide by it seems to me like it can only lead to negative reinforcement. Mass media is not the appropriate outlet for mental health support; and I can only say that I strongly doubt that the motives of the news corporations who brought this to the public eye were pure or humanitarian. More like it was a slow news day and something shocking happened.
Shocking things happen a lot. You know shark attack summers? Those are slow summers. Every summer is a shark attack summer when there's nothing else Rupert Murdoch can plaster across the front of his sorry rags and nothing else for Glenn Beck and his foul ilk to burst veins in their foreheads over and blame on the left.
Do you think that the people you indirectly know who've lost their lives to this kind of bullying would be comforted by the knowledge that some other people killed themselves over it? If the news reported the (far more numerous) cases where people get over it and live happy lives, maybe that would help. If every day we heard, "Small town American gay escapes rural drudgery, is happy in nearby city" on the news, maybe the opposite would happen less often.
In the case of the little girl, I can see nothing to redeem the widespread dispersal of a private grief. What are we supposed to learn from this? Does it have any didactic value, or might they just as well have shown a graphic image of a murdered prostitute or the victims of a car crash or anything else to make people rubberneck and tell their friends about Fox?
Perhaps if the story had been "A little girl is suffering" and people had rallied to support her it would be nice; but these circumstances are just plain ghoulish, not to denigrate the sympathy of those who have sent their good wishes.
I just find this kind of reporting sad, disturbing, disgusting, and plain all round bad for the soul. Bloody-faced vultures circling a dying girl.

by **Wanbli** on 13 Oct 2010, 21:57

I would rather not attempt to discern the intentions of which media outlets espouses which storyline for what means - I am in agreement about that. It is one big trainwreck, distracting us from the real issues.

and as a side- I could care less about shark attacks, I don't find them horrific or disturbing in the least. As a matter of fact, I say good on the shark for attempting to bring dinner to the table.

The purpose of using media as a tool(communications- be it TV, internet, radio, press, etc) to draw attention to issues where people are being silently victimized, be it bullying or child molestation is of the utmost importance to humanity, democracy, the disenfranchised and non-empowered.

If I were a family member facing what these people are publicly doing to this girl, I would use *every* media tool at my disposal to stop her from the continued abuse- after every law has been investigated to jail her and remove her from society first.

by **Weirdelves** on 13 Oct 2010, 22:01

by **Jordan~** on 13 Oct 2010, 22:05

I don't really understand why a restraining order wouldn't have worked, but I'm no lawyer.
Yes, it's important to draw attention to issues, but in a calm and factual way that doesn't emphasise the negatives. EVERY GAY TEEN KILLS HIMSELF is not a constructive way to draw attention to the problems faced by gay teenagers. A sober and fact-based documentary pointing out that cases such as those described in the media are far from usual and that services exist to help, of which most sufferers successfully make use, would be much more constructive: an ad campaign for a helpline, a poster/leaflet campaign in schools, etc. that details the real statistics and handles the issue in a sensitive and constructive manner, rather than the doom and gloom of sensationalist broadcasting.
Don't get me wrong: is gay teen suicide too common? Yes, one a year is one too many by far. Is it constructive to make it seem a lot more common than it actually is? No, definitely, absolutely not.
I'm not particularly distressed by shark attacks, either, as they're extremely rare; my point was that that's how the media works. When it's stuck for something to report that isn't actually news (because who wants to read actual news anymore?) it latches on to something extremely uncommon that frightens people and turns it into a MASSIVE GLOBAL EPIDEMIC WHICH WILL SEEK OUT AND KILL YOU PERSONALLY AND THEN YOUR FAMILY. Cases in point: swine flu and 'terrorism'.

by **polliwog** on 13 Oct 2010, 23:04

by **Becca** on 14 Oct 2010, 15:00

Funny, I just read an article in the paper a couple days ago about a guy who'd started some kind of organization/effort to help gay teens and prevent suicides.
But I do agree about the sensationalism of the media. Take the recent Qur'an burning nonsense. That asshat Terry Jones is in my town. He's just some ignorant redneck who, for some reason, managed to drum up a ton of media attention. Then he basically chickens out on the whole thing, but only after getting international exposure for his tiny little "church." He would have just been some harmless imbecile if everyone had just ignored him, but now he's famous. Which is probably what he really wanted all along.
Just think what would happen if we gave every hillbilly a platform to be heard....oh wait. *coughGlennBeckcoughSarahPalincoughetc.etc.etc* :sure:

We have to stop giving microphones to stupid people.

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